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problem with \partial repeated in second ending

Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence
Hello from the file below notice that for some reason a
partial 8 is used to begin the second ending I can't see
any reason why this should happen.
I looked at section 8.4.2 to see if I needed to correct
it using some kind of timing but that didn't make any sense.
So what's going on here?
Thanks
Jay

\version "2.8.0"
\header {
   title = "Sax 18 (Jig)"
   subtitle = "An Galloglach"
   subsubtitle = "The Gallowglass"
   copyright = "For Study Purposes only"

}
melody = \relative c''
{
\clef treble
\key g \major
\time 6/8
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
#(set-global-staff-size 35)
\partial 8
b8 c4 a8 e' b d c a a a4 b8 c4.\fermata e8 fis g d b g g
a b
\acciaccatura d c b a e' b d \times 3/4 {c-. (c-. a a)}
e'4 d8 c b a g a b
\acciaccatura d c a a a4 \bar ":|"
\repeat volta 2
{\partial 8
a'8 a4.\fermata e8 g d c a a a4 b8 c4.\fermata e8 fis g
d b g g4 e'8}
\alternative {
        {\times 3/4 {a8-.( a-. a-. a-.)} e g d c a a a e' d
\times 3/4 {c-. (c-. b a)}
        g a b \acciaccatura d c a a a4} {a'8[ e g] \times 3/4
{fis-.[ fis-. d b]}
        e8 [c a] b [g e] a [b c] \acciaccatura d e \times 2/3
{b c d} c [a a] a4}
}






\bar "|."


}

\score {
\new Staff \melody
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 8=120 }
}

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Re: problem with \partial repeated in second ending

Carrick Patterson
Re: problem with \partial repeated in second ending You have to do a \partial on the last measure of the first ending.


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Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:50:29 -0700
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Subject: problem with \partial repeated in second ending

\version "2.8.0"
\header {
   title = "Sax 18 (Jig)"
   subtitle = "An Galloglach"
   subsubtitle = "The Gallowglass"
   copyright = "For Study Purposes only"

}
melody = \relative c''
{
\clef treble
\key g \major
\time 6/8
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
#(set-global-staff-size 35)
\partial 8
b8 c4 a8 e' b d c a a a4 b8 c4.\fermata e8 fis g d b g g
a b
\acciaccatura d c b a e' b d \times 3/4 {c-. (c-. a a)}
e'4 d8 c b a g a b
\acciaccatura d c a a a4 \bar ":|"
\repeat volta 2
{\partial 8
a'8 a4.\fermata e8 g d c a a a4 b8 c4.\fermata e8 fis g
d b g g4 e'8}
\alternative {
    {\times 3/4 {a8-.( a-. a-. a-.)} e g d c a a a e' d
\times 3/4 {c-. (c-. b a)}
    g a b \acciaccatura d c a a a4} {a'8[ e g] \times 3/4
{fis-.[ fis-. d b]}
    e8 [c a] b [g e] a [b c] \acciaccatura d e \times 2/3
{b c d} c [a a] a4}
}






\bar "|."


}

\score {
\new Staff \melody
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 8=120 }
}

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Re: problem with \partial repeated in second ending Requires change to manual

Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence
Ok I can make some sense of that but Heads up to Graham
in section 6.7.2  the 3rd example has exactly what I'm
trying to do and there is no mention of needing a
\partial at the end of the first set of repeats.
Jay


Carrick Patterson wrote:

> You have to do a \partial on the last measure of the first ending.
>
>
> *From: *"Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence" <[hidden email]>
> *Organization: *Sound and Silence
> *Reply-To: *[hidden email]
> *Date: *Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:50:29 -0700
> *To: *"[hidden email] list" <[hidden email]>
> *Subject: *problem with \partial repeated in second ending
>
> \version "2.8.0"
> \header {
>    title = "Sax 18 (Jig)"
>    subtitle = "An Galloglach"
>    subsubtitle = "The Gallowglass"
>    copyright = "For Study Purposes only"
>
> }
> melody = \relative c''
> {
> \clef treble
> \key g \major
> \time 6/8
> \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
> #(set-global-staff-size 35)
> \partial 8
> b8 c4 a8 e' b d c a a a4 b8 c4.\fermata e8 fis g d b g g
> a b
> \acciaccatura d c b a e' b d \times 3/4 {c-. (c-. a a)}
> e'4 d8 c b a g a b
> \acciaccatura d c a a a4 \bar ":|"
> \repeat volta 2
> {\partial 8
> a'8 a4.\fermata e8 g d c a a a4 b8 c4.\fermata e8 fis g
> d b g g4 e'8}
> \alternative {
>     {\times 3/4 {a8-.( a-. a-. a-.)} e g d c a a a e' d
> \times 3/4 {c-. (c-. b a)}
>     g a b \acciaccatura d c a a a4} {a'8[ e g] \times 3/4
> {fis-.[ fis-. d b]}
>     e8 [c a] b [g e] a [b c] \acciaccatura d e \times 2/3
> {b c d} c [a a] a4}
> }
>
>
>
>
>
>
> \bar "|."
>
>
> }
>
> \score {
> \new Staff \melody
> \layout { }
> \midi { \tempo 8=120 }
> }
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Re: problem with \partial repeated in second ending Requires change to manual

Carrick Patterson
Re: problem with \partial repeated in second ending Requires change to manual If you look at it carefully, the same thing is happening in your example and the example in the manual: The partial measure at the end of the first ending is continued and completed in the first measure of the second (or fourth in the manual) ending. That's fine in the manual example, because the first measure of the fourth ending is itself a partial. But in your example the first measure of the second ending is a FULL measure. So to make that work you have to make the previous measure (which as far as Lilypond is concerned is the last measure of the first ending) a partial. Otherwise the left-over note from the previous measure (the eighth note A in your case) carries over into the second ending. Or at least that's what it looks like to me; perhaps a real expert will have a better insight.

If you think about it, that's logical. I mean, how the heck is Lilypond supposed to know which measures you want to be full and which ones partial unless you tell it?


From: "Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence" <[hidden email]>
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Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 07:26:46 -0700
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Subject: Re: problem with \partial repeated in second ending Requires change to manual

Ok I can make some sense of that but Heads up to Graham
in section 6.7.2  the 3rd example has exactly what I'm
trying to do and there is no mention of needing a
\partial at the end of the first set of repeats.
Jay


Carrick Patterson wrote:
> You have to do a \partial on the last measure of the first ending.
>
>
> *From: *"Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence" <[hidden email]>
> *Organization: *Sound and Silence
> *Reply-To: *[hidden email]
> *Date: *Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:50:29 -0700
> *To: *"[hidden email] list" <[hidden email]>
> *Subject: *problem with \partial repeated in second ending
>
> \version "2.8.0"
> \header {
>    title = "Sax 18 (Jig)"
>    subtitle = "An Galloglach"
>    subsubtitle = "The Gallowglass"
>    copyright = "For Study Purposes only"
>
> }
> melody = \relative c''
> {
> \clef treble
> \key g \major
> \time 6/8
> \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
> #(set-global-staff-size 35)
> \partial 8
> b8 c4 a8 e' b d c a a a4 b8 c4.\fermata e8 fis g d b g g
> a b
> \acciaccatura d c b a e' b d \times 3/4 {c-. (c-. a a)}
> e'4 d8 c b a g a b
> \acciaccatura d c a a a4 \bar ":|"
> \repeat volta 2
> {\partial 8
> a'8 a4.\fermata e8 g d c a a a4 b8 c4.\fermata e8 fis g
> d b g g4 e'8}
> \alternative {
>     {\times 3/4 {a8-.( a-. a-. a-.)} e g d c a a a e' d
> \times 3/4 {c-. (c-. b a)}
>     g a b \acciaccatura d c a a a4} {a'8[ e g] \times 3/4
> {fis-.[ fis-. d b]}
>     e8 [c a] b [g e] a [b c] \acciaccatura d e \times 2/3
> {b c d} c [a a] a4}
> }
>
>
>
>
>
>
> \bar "|."
>
>
> }
>
> \score {
> \new Staff \melody
> \layout { }
> \midi { \tempo 8=120 }
> }
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Re: problem with \partial repeated in second ending Requires change to manual

Graham Percival-2
In reply to this post by Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence

On 8-Apr-06, at 7:26 AM, Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote:

> Ok I can make some sense of that but Heads up to Graham in section
> 6.7.2  the 3rd example has exactly what I'm trying to do and there is
> no mention of needing a \partial at the end of the first set of
> repeats.

Huh?

If you are proposing a change to the docs, please assume that I know
nothing about the issue.  (which in this case is the truth -- I haven't
been following this thread, nor do I use many \repeats in my music)

6.7.2, 3rd example.  I got that far.  Now, exactly what text should I
add/replace/remove to the main text or example?

- Graham



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