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Eduardo Vieira
Hello group,
 
I have setup this song for soprano/ alto and used "partcombine". When two notes are in unison (or in intervals of seconds), what should I do to make one have a stem up and the other a stem down? Is it possible?
I know if I had started the score from the scratch I would have chords and voice layers instead, and that would avoid such problem.
Another question: Referring to the shaped notes, how could I invert the notehead of the "gis2" in the 16th and 18th measure? Shouldn't the program automatically have made them follow the same pattern of the next "gis8" in the mentioned measures?
 
Best regards,
 
Eduardo
 
P. S. I'm using version 2.6.3 in Windows Me. Encoding: UTF-8. Here is a copy of the file (which was converted from an ABC file):
 
\version "2.5.20"
\header {
 poet = "Port. James Frederick Spann, 1976"
 composer = "Denes Agay, 1970"
 crossRefNumber = "1"
 footnotes = ""
 tagline = "Lily was here 2.6.3 -- automatically converted from ABC"
 title = "Uma Bênção Antiga"
}
voiceB =  {
\autoBeamOff
\time 4/4 \key d \major
\aikenHeads
 \partial 4
d'8    e'8        fis'2    b'4.    a'8   
    fis'4    fis'2    d'8    e'8        fis'4    fis'4    b'8   
a'8    d'8    e'8          fis'2. ~    fis'8    fis'8       
b'4    cis''4    d''4.    cis''8        b'4    a'4    fis'4.    fis'8   
    b'4    cis''4    d''8    e''8    d''8    cis''8          b'4 
  a'4    fis'4.    fis'8        e'4.    e'8    a'4.    g'8       
fis'4    e'4    d'4    e'4        cis'2.    g'4          fis'2.  
 b'4        d''2    b'4    g'4        cis''4    a'4    fis'4   
a'8    cis''8        b'2.    b'8    b'8          b'2    b'8   
b'8    b'8    b'8        dis''4    b'2    b'8    b'8        b'2  
 b'8    b'8    cis''8    b'8        gis'8.    b'16    b'8    b'4.   ~   
b'8    b'8        fis'2    fis'2        fis'2.    \bar "|."  
}
voiceC =  {
\autoBeamOff
\time 4/4 \key d \major
\aikenHeads
 \partial 4
b8    cis'8        d'2    d'4.    cis'8   
    d'4    d'2    b8    cis'8        d'4    d'4    d'8    d'8   
d'8    d'8          cis'2. ~    cis'8   fis'8
d'4   e'4    g'4.    e'8        d'4    e'4    d'4.    d'8        d'4   
e'4    g'8    g'8    g'8    e'8          d'4    e'4    d'4.    b8   
    b4.    b8    cis'4.    cis'8        d'4    cis'4    b4    b4 
      ais2.    e'4          cis'2.    fis'4        b'2   
g'4    d'4        a'4    fis'4    cis'4    fis'8    a'8       
fis'2.    fis'8    fis'8          gis'2    gis'8    gis'8    gis'8   
gis'8        fis'4    fis'2    fis'8    fis'8        gis'2   
gis'8    gis'8    gis'8    gis'8        gis'8.    fis'16    fis'8   
fis'4.   ~    fis'8    fis'8       fis'2    e'2       d'2. 
\bar "|."  
}
 
\score{
 \partcombine
{ \voiceB }
{ \voiceC }
            
 \layout {
 \context {
   \Voice
   printPartCombineTexts = ##f
  }
 indent = 0
 
}
\midi { \tempo 4 = 112 }
}
 

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Re: partcombine and stems

Mats Bengtsson-6


Eduardo Vieira wrote:

> Hello group,
>  
> I have setup this song for soprano/ alto and used "partcombine".
> When two notes are in unison (or in intervals of seconds), what should
> I do to make one have a stem up and the other a stem down? Is it possible?

Then you shouldn't use partcombine, since the main purpose of these
feature is
to write the parts as a single voice when they are in unison.
Just use something like
\new Staff << \voiceB \\ \voiceC >>
instead.

> I know if I had started the score from the scratch I would have chords
> and voice layers instead, and that would avoid such problem.
> Another question: Referring to the shaped notes, how could I invert
> the notehead of the "gis2" in the 16th and 18th measure? Shouldn't the
> program automatically have made them follow the same pattern of the
> next "gis8" in the mentioned measures?

I seem to recall that there were some bugs related to shaped notes
around version
2.6.0, I would recommend to upgrade to the latest stable version, 2.6.4,
where I
think this has been fixed.

    /Mats


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Re: partcombine and stems

Eduardo Vieira
> Eduardo Vieira wrote:
> > Another question: Referring to the shaped notes, how could I invert
> > the notehead of the "gis2" in the 16th and 18th measure? Shouldn't the
> > program automatically have made them follow the same pattern of the
> > next "gis8" in the mentioned measures?
>
> I seem to recall that there were some bugs related to shaped notes
> around version
> 2.6.0, I would recommend to upgrade to the latest stable version, 2.6.4,
> where I
> think this has been fixed.
>
>     /Mats
>

I was using version 2.6.3 and then I downloaded: lilypond-2.6.4-upgrade. The
problem remains the same.
Also, when to voices have the same note a "fas" (triangle -- the fourth step
in a scale) both noteheads are put together and what you see is a rectangle.
Has it been fixed yet? Or do we have to manually make one notehead
invisible?

Eduardo



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Re: partcombine and stems

Han-Wen Nienhuys
Eduardo Vieira wrote:

> I was using version 2.6.3 and then I downloaded: lilypond-2.6.4-upgrade. The
> problem remains the same.
> Also, when to voices have the same note a "fas" (triangle -- the fourth step
> in a scale) both noteheads are put together and what you see is a rectangle.
> Has it been fixed yet? Or do we have to manually make one notehead
> invisible?

what is the convention for hymn books in this case?

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Re: partcombine and stems

Han-Wen Nienhuys
In reply to this post by Eduardo Vieira
Eduardo Vieira wrote:
> I was using version 2.6.3 and then I downloaded: lilypond-2.6.4-upgrade. The
> problem remains the same.

can you send a real  bugreport?  A sample which _only_ shows the problem?

> Also, when to voices have the same note a "fas" (triangle -- the fourth step
> in a scale) both noteheads are put together and what you see is a rectangle.
> Has it been fixed yet? Or do we have to manually make one notehead
> invisible?

This is fixed in 2.7 CVS. I'm not sure if the solution is good, though.
The result looks like a lozenge now.


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