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 I'm having trouble eliminating vertical space above an Ossia snippet. This is the example of the manual, augmented to extend over multiple lines: \version "2.19.32" \new Staff = "main" \relative { \repeat unfold 4 {  c''4 b d c} \break \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c}   <<     { c4 b d c }     \new Staff \with {       \remove "Time_signature_engraver"       alignAboveContext = #"main"       \magnifyStaff #2/3       firstClef = ##f     }     { e4 d f e }   >> \break \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c}   c4 b c2 } I had a demand to put the ossia closer to the below staff, and to keep the distance between staffs the same. Looking for old posts I found this one that claims to achieve this, but it only solves the first demand with the padding property: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Ossia-distance-unwanted-vertical-spacing-td206336.htmlSo this is how my snippet looks like with this: \version "2.19.32" \new Staff = "main" \relative { \repeat unfold 4 {  c''4 b d c} \break \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c}   <<     { c4 b d c }     \new Staff \with {       \remove "Time_signature_engraver"       alignAboveContext = #"main"       \magnifyStaff #2/3       firstClef = ##f      \override VerticalAxisGroup #'default-staff-staff-spacing = #'( (basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 0) (padding . 1.5) (stretchability . 90) )     }     { e4 d f e }   >> \break \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c}   c4 b c2 } The vertical distance above the ossia I could not reduce no matter how much I tweaked the numbers in the override, and so the distance between the two lines with ossia in the middle is different from the rest. I also tried "staff-staff-spacing" instead of "default-staff-staff-spacing" but there is no change. Is it possible to reduce the vertical distance above the ossia? I gave up and ended up doing the ossia with music included in a markup, for the markup I know how to tweak all vertical distances. -- Walter Garcia-Fontes L'Hospitalet de Llobregat _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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 On 5/17/2018 2:01 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote: I'm having trouble eliminating vertical space above an Ossia snippet. This is the example of the manual, augmented to extend over multiple lines: The vertical distance above the ossia I could not reduce no matter how much I tweaked the numbers in the override, and so the distance between the two lines with ossia in the middle is different from the rest. I also tried "staff-staff-spacing" instead of "default-staff-staff-spacing" but there is no change. Is it possible to reduce the vertical distance above the ossia? I gave up and ended up doing the ossia with music included in a markup, for the markup I know how to tweak all vertical distances.  Hello, You could always try to approach from the paper block? :) Does that work for your needs? i.e. #'((basic-distance . 10) (see attached) \version "2.19.32" \new Staff = "main" \relative { \repeat unfold 4 {  c''4 b d c} \break \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c}   <<     { c4 b d c }     \new Staff \with {       \remove "Time_signature_engraver"       alignAboveContext = #"main"       \magnifyStaff #2/3       firstClef = ##f      \override VerticalAxisGroup #'default-staff-staff-spacing = #'( (basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 0) (padding . 1.5) (stretchability . 90) )     }     { e4 d f e }   >> \break \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c}   c4 b c2 } \paper {   system-system-spacing =     #'((basic-distance . 10)        (minimum-distance . 1)        (padding . 1)        (stretchability . 6)) } _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user paper.png (22K) Download Attachment composer | sound designer | asmr artist LilyPond video tutorials: http://bit.ly/LearnLilyPond
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 * Ben, [hidden email] [17/05/18 12:05]: > On 5/17/2018 2:01 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote: > > I'm having trouble eliminating vertical space above an Ossia > > snippet. This is the example of the manual, augmented to extend over > > multiple lines: > > \version "2.19.32" \new Staff = "main" \relative { \repeat unfold 4 {  c''4 b d c} \break \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c}   <<     { c4 b d c }     \new Staff \with {       \remove "Time_signature_engraver"       alignAboveContext = #"main"       \magnifyStaff #2/3       firstClef = ##f      \override VerticalAxisGroup #'default-staff-staff-spacing = #'( (basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 0) (padding . 1.5) (stretchability . 90) )     }     { e4 d f e }   >> \break \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c}   c4 b c2 } > > > > The vertical distance above the ossia I could not reduce no matter how > > much I tweaked the numbers in the override, and so the distance > > between the two lines with ossia in the middle is different from the > > rest. I also tried "staff-staff-spacing" instead of > > "default-staff-staff-spacing" but there is no change. > > > > Is it possible to reduce the vertical distance above the ossia? I > > gave up and ended up doing the ossia with music included in a markup, > > for the markup I know how to tweak all vertical distances. > > > You could always try to approach from the paper block? :) Does that work for > your needs? [snippet erased] > \paper { >   system-system-spacing = >     #'((basic-distance . 10) >        (minimum-distance . 1) >        (padding . 1) >        (stretchability . 6)) > } > The problem is that the vertical distance between line 1 and 2 is larger than between lines 2 and 3. I would like it to be equal for all lines. I can achieve  this with the "markup" below, but not with the way the manual suggests to do "ossia": \version "2.19.32" \new Staff = "main" \relative { \repeat unfold 4 {  c''4 b d c} \break c4 b d c c^\markup {     \score {     \new Staff \with {       \remove "Time_signature_engraver"       alignAboveContext = #"main"       \magnifyStaff #2/3       firstClef = ##f     }       \relative c''  { e4 d f e  \bar "|"}   \layout { }  } } \repeat unfold 2 {  c4 b d c} \break \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c} \break \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c} \break   c4 b c2 } > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-- Walter Garcia-Fontes mailto: [hidden email] - http://puna.upf.eduDepartament d'Economia i Empresa - http://www.econ.upf.eduUniversitat Pompeu Fabra Ramon Trias Fargas 25-27, 08005 Barcelona, Spain Tel. +34 93 542 2722 - Fax. +34 93 542 1746 _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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 On 5/17/2018 9:34 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote: * Ben, [hidden email] [17/05/18 12:05]:  On 5/17/2018 2:01 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote:  I'm having trouble eliminating vertical space above an Ossia snippet. This is the example of the manual, augmented to extend over multiple lines:  \version "2.19.32" \new Staff = "main" \relative { \repeat unfold 4 { c''4 b d c} \break \repeat unfold 4 { c4 b d c} << { c4 b d c } \new Staff \with { \remove "Time_signature_engraver" alignAboveContext = #"main" \magnifyStaff #2/3 firstClef = ##f \override VerticalAxisGroup #'default-staff-staff-spacing = #'( (basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 0) (padding . 1.5) (stretchability . 90) ) } { e4 d f e } >> \break \repeat unfold 4 { c4 b d c} c4 b c2 }  The vertical distance above the ossia I could not reduce no matter how much I tweaked the numbers in the override, and so the distance between the two lines with ossia in the middle is different from the rest. I also tried "staff-staff-spacing" instead of "default-staff-staff-spacing" but there is no change. Is it possible to reduce the vertical distance above the ossia? I gave up and ended up doing the ossia with music included in a markup, for the markup I know how to tweak all vertical distances.  You could always try to approach from the paper block? :) Does that work for your needs?  [snippet erased]  \paper {   system-system-spacing =     #'((basic-distance . 10)        (minimum-distance . 1)        (padding . 1)        (stretchability . 6)) }  The problem is that the vertical distance between line 1 and 2 is larger than between lines 2 and 3. I would like it to be equal for all lines. I can achieve this with the "markup" below, but not with the way the manual suggests to do "ossia": \version "2.19.32" \new Staff = "main" \relative { \repeat unfold 4 { c''4 b d c} \break c4 b d c c^\markup { \score { \new Staff \with { \remove "Time_signature_engraver" alignAboveContext = #"main" \magnifyStaff #2/3 firstClef = ##f } \relative c'' { e4 d f e \bar "|"} \layout { } } } \repeat unfold 2 { c4 b d c} \break \repeat unfold 4 { c4 b d c} \break \repeat unfold 4 { c4 b d c} \break c4 b c2 }  I'm confused...in that case, along with my paper block suggestion, couldn't you just tweak the   \override VerticalAxisGroup #'default-staff-staff-spacing = #'( (basic-distance . 6) (minimum-distance . 0) (padding . 1.5) (stretchability . 90) ) to get the general spacing you wish? Both blocks together should be what you want. No? _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user composer | sound designer | asmr artist LilyPond video tutorials: http://bit.ly/LearnLilyPond
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 * Ben, [hidden email] [17/05/18 15:52]: > On 5/17/2018 9:34 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote: > > * Ben, [hidden email] [17/05/18 12:05]: > > > On 5/17/2018 2:01 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote: > > > > I'm having trouble eliminating vertical space above an Ossia > > > > snippet. This is the example of the manual, augmented to extend over > > > > multiple lines: > > > > > > \version "2.19.32" > > > > > > \new Staff = "main" \relative { > > \repeat unfold 4 {  c''4 b d c} \break > > \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c} > >    << > >      { c4 b d c } > > > >      \new Staff \with { > >        \remove "Time_signature_engraver" > >        alignAboveContext = #"main" > >        \magnifyStaff #2/3 > >        firstClef = ##f > >       \override VerticalAxisGroup #'default-staff-staff-spacing = #'( > > (basic-distance . 0) > > (minimum-distance . 0) > > (padding . 1.5) > > (stretchability . 90) ) > >      } > >      { e4 d f e } > >    >> > > \break > > \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c} > >    c4 b c2 > > } > > > > > > The vertical distance above the ossia I could not reduce no matter how > > > > much I tweaked the numbers in the override, and so the distance > > > > between the two lines with ossia in the middle is different from the > > > > rest. I also tried "staff-staff-spacing" instead of > > > > "default-staff-staff-spacing" but there is no change. > > > > > > > > Is it possible to reduce the vertical distance above the ossia? I > > > > gave up and ended up doing the ossia with music included in a markup, > > > > for the markup I know how to tweak all vertical distances. > > > > > > > You could always try to approach from the paper block? :) Does that work for > > > your needs? > > [snippet erased] > > > > > \paper { > > >    system-system-spacing = > > >      #'((basic-distance . 10) > > >         (minimum-distance . 1) > > >         (padding . 1) > > >         (stretchability . 6)) > > > } > > > > > The problem is that the vertical distance between line 1 and 2 is larger than > > between lines 2 and 3. I would like it to be equal for all lines. I > > can achieve  this with the "markup" below, but not with the way the > > manual suggests to do "ossia": > > > > \version "2.19.32" > > > > > > \new Staff = "main" \relative { > > \repeat unfold 4 {  c''4 b d c} \break > > c4 b d c c^\markup { > >      \score { > >      \new Staff \with { > >        \remove "Time_signature_engraver" > >        alignAboveContext = #"main" > >        \magnifyStaff #2/3 > >        firstClef = ##f > >      } > >    \relative c''  { e4 d f e  \bar "|"} > >    \layout { } > >   } > > } > > \repeat unfold 2 {  c4 b d c} \break > > \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c} \break > > \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c} \break > >    c4 b c2 > > } > > > > > > I'm confused...in that case, along with my paper block suggestion, couldn't > you just tweak the > >   \override VerticalAxisGroup #'default-staff-staff-spacing = #'( > (basic-distance . 6) > (minimum-distance . 0) > (padding . 1.5) > (stretchability . 90) ) > > to get the general spacing you wish? Both blocks together should be what you > want. No? Thanks Ben, This is exactly what I try in my snippet. I've also tried to put the override in the general score and in the paper block, but those lines refuse to get closer no matter what I try. -- Walter Garcia-Fontes L'Hospitalet de Llobregat _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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 On 5/17/2018 10:13 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote: * Ben, [hidden email] [17/05/18 15:52]:  On 5/17/2018 9:34 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote:  * Ben, [hidden email] [17/05/18 12:05]:  On 5/17/2018 2:01 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote:  I'm having trouble eliminating vertical space above an Ossia snippet. This is the example of the manual, augmented to extend over multiple lines:  \version "2.19.32" \new Staff = "main" \relative { \repeat unfold 4 { c''4 b d c} \break \repeat unfold 4 { c4 b d c} << { c4 b d c } \new Staff \with { \remove "Time_signature_engraver" alignAboveContext = #"main" \magnifyStaff #2/3 firstClef = ##f \override VerticalAxisGroup #'default-staff-staff-spacing = #'( (basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 0) (padding . 1.5) (stretchability . 90) ) } { e4 d f e } >> \break \repeat unfold 4 { c4 b d c} c4 b c2 }  The vertical distance above the ossia I could not reduce no matter how much I tweaked the numbers in the override, and so the distance between the two lines with ossia in the middle is different from the rest. I also tried "staff-staff-spacing" instead of "default-staff-staff-spacing" but there is no change. Is it possible to reduce the vertical distance above the ossia? I gave up and ended up doing the ossia with music included in a markup, for the markup I know how to tweak all vertical distances.  You could always try to approach from the paper block? :) Does that work for your needs?  Thanks Ben, This is exactly what I try in my snippet. I've also tried to put the override in the general score and in the paper block, but those lines refuse to get closer no matter what I try.  (see attached) :) Oh, now I understand. Then just do this:   \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing =   %%%%%%%%%%%% \version "2.19.32" \new Staff = "main" \relative { \repeat unfold 12 {  c''4 b d c} \break \repeat unfold 12 {  c4 b d c}   <<     { c4 b d c }     \new Staff \with {       \remove "Time_signature_engraver"       alignAboveContext = #"main"       \magnifyStaff #2/3       firstClef = ##f     \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing =     #'(         (basic-distance . 0)         (minimum-distance . 0)         (padding . .5)         (stretchability . 90)         )     }     { e4 d f e }   >> \break \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c}   c4 b c2 } \paper {   system-system-spacing =     #'((basic-distance . 12)        (minimum-distance . 1)        (padding . 1)        (stretchability . 6)) } _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ossiaclose.png (39K) Download Attachment composer | sound designer | asmr artist LilyPond video tutorials: http://bit.ly/LearnLilyPond
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 In reply to this post by wgarcia * Ben, [hidden email] [17/05/18 16:39]: > On 5/17/2018 10:13 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote: > > * Ben, [hidden email] [17/05/18 15:52]: > > > On 5/17/2018 9:34 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote: > > > > * Ben, [hidden email] [17/05/18 12:05]: > > > > > On 5/17/2018 2:01 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote: > > > > > > I'm having trouble eliminating vertical space above an Ossia > > > > > > snippet. This is the example of the manual, augmented to extend over > > > > > > multiple lines: > > > > > > > > > > \version "2.19.32" > > > > > > > > > > > > \new Staff = "main" \relative { > > > > \repeat unfold 4 {  c''4 b d c} \break > > > > \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c} > > > >     << > > > >       { c4 b d c } > > > > > > > >       \new Staff \with { > > > >         \remove "Time_signature_engraver" > > > >         alignAboveContext = #"main" > > > >         \magnifyStaff #2/3 > > > >         firstClef = ##f > > > >        \override VerticalAxisGroup #'default-staff-staff-spacing = #'( > > > > (basic-distance . 0) > > > > (minimum-distance . 0) > > > > (padding . 1.5) > > > > (stretchability . 90) ) > > > >       } > > > >       { e4 d f e } > > > >     >> > > > > \break > > > > \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c} > > > >     c4 b c2 > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > The vertical distance above the ossia I could not reduce no matter how > > > > > > much I tweaked the numbers in the override, and so the distance > > > > > > between the two lines with ossia in the middle is different from the > > > > > > rest. I also tried "staff-staff-spacing" instead of > > > > > > "default-staff-staff-spacing" but there is no change. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to reduce the vertical distance above the ossia? I > > > > > > gave up and ended up doing the ossia with music included in a markup, > > > > > > for the markup I know how to tweak all vertical distances. > > > > > > > > > > > You could always try to approach from the paper block? :) Does that work for > > > > > your needs? > > > > > > Thanks Ben, > > > > This is exactly what I try in my snippet. I've also tried to put the > > override in the general score and in the paper block, but those lines > > refuse to get closer no matter what I try. > > > > (see attached) :) > > Oh, now I understand. Then just do this: > >   \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing = > > %%%%%%%%%%%% > \version "2.19.32" > > \new Staff = "main" \relative { > \repeat unfold 12 {  c''4 b d c} \break > \repeat unfold 12 {  c4 b d c} >   << >     { c4 b d c } > >     \new Staff \with { > >       \remove "Time_signature_engraver" >       alignAboveContext = #"main" >       \magnifyStaff #2/3 >       firstClef = ##f >     \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing = >     #'( >         (basic-distance . 0) >         (minimum-distance . 0) >         (padding . .5) >         (stretchability . 90) >         ) >     } >     { e4 d f e } >   >> > \break > \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c} >   c4 b c2 > } > > \paper { >   system-system-spacing = >     #'((basic-distance . 12) >        (minimum-distance . 1) >        (padding . 1) >        (stretchability . 6)) > } Thanks, that looks better. There is still in my opinion too much space above the ossia, and if you want to make the staffs equally space, this imposes a large space between them. Is it impossible to tweak the vertical space above the ossia at all? -- Walter Garcia-Fontes L'Hospitalet de Llobregat _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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 In reply to this post by wgarcia In your original post, you mentioned that you wanted the ossia closer to the below-staff, which the code earlier should help with. If you are talking about explicitly positioning a single staff in addition to that, maybe you could try something from: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/explicit-staff-and-system-positioning \overrideProperty Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-system-details #'((Y-offset . 0)) etc. Does that help? Do you have a photo showing the exact visual output you're after?  On 5/17/2018 10:51 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote: * Ben, [hidden email] [17/05/18 16:39]:  On 5/17/2018 10:13 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote:  * Ben, [hidden email] [17/05/18 15:52]:  On 5/17/2018 9:34 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote:  * Ben, [hidden email] [17/05/18 12:05]:  On 5/17/2018 2:01 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote:  I'm having trouble eliminating vertical space above an Ossia snippet. This is the example of the manual, augmented to extend over multiple lines:  \version "2.19.32" \new Staff = "main" \relative { \repeat unfold 4 { c''4 b d c} \break \repeat unfold 4 { c4 b d c} << { c4 b d c } \new Staff \with { \remove "Time_signature_engraver" alignAboveContext = #"main" \magnifyStaff #2/3 firstClef = ##f \override VerticalAxisGroup #'default-staff-staff-spacing = #'( (basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 0) (padding . 1.5) (stretchability . 90) ) } { e4 d f e } >> \break \repeat unfold 4 { c4 b d c} c4 b c2 }  The vertical distance above the ossia I could not reduce no matter how much I tweaked the numbers in the override, and so the distance between the two lines with ossia in the middle is different from the rest. I also tried "staff-staff-spacing" instead of "default-staff-staff-spacing" but there is no change. Is it possible to reduce the vertical distance above the ossia? I gave up and ended up doing the ossia with music included in a markup, for the markup I know how to tweak all vertical distances.  You could always try to approach from the paper block? :) Does that work for your needs?  Thanks Ben, This is exactly what I try in my snippet. I've also tried to put the override in the general score and in the paper block, but those lines refuse to get closer no matter what I try.  (see attached) :) Oh, now I understand. Then just do this:   \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing = %%%%%%%%%%%% \version "2.19.32" \new Staff = "main" \relative { \repeat unfold 12 {  c''4 b d c} \break \repeat unfold 12 {  c4 b d c}   <<     { c4 b d c }     \new Staff \with {       \remove "Time_signature_engraver"       alignAboveContext = #"main"       \magnifyStaff #2/3       firstClef = ##f     \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing =     #'(         (basic-distance . 0)         (minimum-distance . 0)         (padding . .5)         (stretchability . 90)         )     }     { e4 d f e }   >> \break \repeat unfold 4 {  c4 b d c}   c4 b c2 } \paper {   system-system-spacing =     #'((basic-distance . 12)        (minimum-distance . 1)        (padding . 1)        (stretchability . 6)) }  Thanks, that looks better. There is still in my opinion too much space above the ossia, and if you want to make the staffs equally space, this imposes a large space between them. Is it impossible to tweak the vertical space above the ossia at all?  _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user composer | sound designer | asmr artist LilyPond video tutorials: http://bit.ly/LearnLilyPond
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 * Ben, [hidden email] [17/05/18 17:04]: > In your original post, you mentioned that you wanted the ossia closer to the > below-staff, which the code earlier should help with. > > If you are talking about explicitly positioning a single staff in addition > to that, maybe you could try something from: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/explicit-staff-and-system-positioning> > > \overrideProperty Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-system-details >             #'((Y-offset . 0)) > I actually tried this one too, but I can't move the two staffs with the ossia in the middle closer using this tweak. -- Walter Garcia-Fontes L'Hospitalet de Llobregat _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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 In reply to this post by SoundsFromSound     From: Ben <[hidden email]> Date: Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM To: <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: Vertical space above ossia   On 5/17/2018 10:13 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote:   But notice that there is additional space between the 3rd line of the score and the fourth line of the score (to make room for the ossia).   I think that to get the spacing Walter wants, using a markup for the ossia is the correct solution.   HTH,   Carl   _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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 On 5/17/2018 3:08 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote:     From: Ben [hidden email] Date: Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Vertical space above ossia   On 5/17/2018 10:13 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote:   But notice that there is additional space between the 3rd line of the score and the fourth line of the score (to make room for the ossia).   I think that to get the spacing Walter wants, using a markup for the ossia is the correct solution.   HTH,   Carl   Looks that way, yes. _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user composer | sound designer | asmr artist LilyPond video tutorials: http://bit.ly/LearnLilyPond
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