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Re: duplicate dynamics on same staff

James Wilkinson
Re: duplicate dynamics on same staff
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:00:07 +0200
From: "Vicente Solsona" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: duplicate dynamics on same staff
To: [hidden email], "James Wilkinson" <[hidden email]>
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:19:05 +0200, James Wilkinson <[hidden email]
wrote:
> > \version 2.13.31
> >
> >
> > When I put two voices on the same staff that have identical markings
> > for dynamics and tempo, Lilypond prints them both, one above the
> > other.
[...]
> > Back to my original question: if Lilypond can see that one of these
> > things needs to be moved, how hard  would it be to have it determine
> > that they are identical and just not print one of them?

if the dynamics are the same, it's better to write them just once. thus 
you:

1) save typing

Yes, if I were just starting, I would save typing. This time I didn't discover this problem until I already had it done the other way, so it's just going to be extra work. Yeah, I know I'm whining about the hour it's going to take,:( but then I'm retired :) so I have the hour available. Still it seems like an obvious thing for Lilypond to do even though it won't help me this time. Now that I know the right way to do this, it won't help me in the future either, unless I forget, which can't be ruled out at my age. :( :(


2) help lilypond so it does't need to waste time guessing obvious things 
and it can concentrate on the big stuff  :)

I prefer to let Lilypond take care of the obvious things so I can concentrate on the big stuff. I mean, do you understand just how out of hand the national debt has gotten? :)

<soapbox> One of the things I've learned in 40 years of messing with computers is that it's never a good idea to make the human accommodate the machine. </soapbox>

Sweat not; I'll be fine. I know you guys are covered up with work,  and I appreciate what you're doing.





The snippet you sent is much the same as what I was looking for and couldn't find. Thanks

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Vicente Solsona-2
>> if the dynamics are the same, it's better to write them just once. thus
>> you:
>> 1) save typing
>>
> Yes, if I were just starting, I would save typing. This time I didn't
> discover this problem until I already had it done the other way, so it's
> just going to be extra work. Yeah, I know I'm whining about the hour it's
> going to take,

then you can just prevent the dynamics printing on one voice:

\version "2.12.3"
<<
  \new Voice = "A" \with {
    \remove "New_dynamic_engraver"
     % it could be "Dynamic_engraver" in 2.13, I'm not sure
  }

  \relative c'' {
      \voiceOne
      a\f b\> c d\p
  } \\
  \new Voice = "B" \relative c' {
      \voiceTwo
      c\f d\> e f\p
  }
>>

>>> if Lilypond can see that one of these
>>> things needs to be moved, how hard  would it be to have it determine
>>> that they are identical and just not print one of them?
[...]
>> 2) help lilypond so it doesn't need to waste time guessing obvious
>> things and it can concentrate on the big stuff  :)

I actually don't know if what you requested is possible at all with Lily.
I might be just speaking too much...

greetings,

Vicente



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