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jonathan.scholbach
Dear Ponders,

I would like to typeset a certain type of notation, which can be found
in liturgical context. I have an example image attached. (Ignore the
lyrics written in Fraktur). I have two questions:
    1. How is this notation called?
    2. How can I (easily) reproduce it with LP? - a question which might
break apart into:
        2a) how do I typeset those "double-quarter" notes?
        2b) how do I manage the alignment of lyrics conveniently? (NB
that  several times there happen to be multiple syllables on one note).

Thank you!

Jonathan

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Re: certain type of vocal notation in liturgical contexts

Phil Holmes
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From: "Jonathan Scholbach" <[hidden email]>
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> Dear Ponders,
>
> I would like to typeset a certain type of notation, which can be found
> in liturgical context. I have an example image attached. (Ignore the
> lyrics written in Fraktur). I have two questions:
>    1. How is this notation called?
>    2. How can I (easily) reproduce it with LP? - a question which might
> break apart into:
>        2a) how do I typeset those "double-quarter" notes?
>        2b) how do I manage the alignment of lyrics conveniently? (NB
> that  several times there happen to be multiple syllables on one note).
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jonathan

It would generally be called chant:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/chants-psalms-and-hymns

The double quarters would be set with ties between them.

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#ties

Lilypond can align multiple syllables to a single note:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-vocal-music#multiple-syllables-to-one-note

HTH

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Re: certain type of vocal notation in liturgical contexts

David Wright
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On Wed 31 May 2017 at 15:56:44 (+0200), Jonathan Scholbach wrote:

> Dear Ponders,
>
> I would like to typeset a certain type of notation, which can be found
> in liturgical context. I have an example image attached. (Ignore the
> lyrics written in Fraktur). I have two questions:
>     1. How is this notation called?
>     2. How can I (easily) reproduce it with LP? - a question which might
> break apart into:
>         2a) how do I typeset those "double-quarter" notes?
>         2b) how do I manage the alignment of lyrics conveniently? (NB
> that  several times there happen to be multiple syllables on one note).

See if §2.9.6 in the Notation Reference helps. I don't think your
example does anything significantly different. (I wondered about
the comma after "ging". I would set "ging" on its own crochet, and
put the breve on the following syllable, "da…".)

Cheers,
David.

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Re: certain type of vocal notation in liturgical contexts

Michael Gerdau
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Hallo Jonathan,


I would like to typeset a certain type of notation, which can be found
in liturgical context. I have an example image attached. (Ignore the
lyrics written in Fraktur). I have two questions:

  1. How is this notation called?
  2. How can I (easily) reproduce it with LP? - a question which might
    break apart into:
    2a) how do I typeset those "double-quarter" notes?
    2b) how do I manage the alignment of lyrics conveniently? (NB
    that several times there happen to be multiple syllables on one note).

quite some time ago Thomas Morley kindly provided a very helpful function \offsetChord which is rather helpful to deal with these melismata. Find below an engraving of the image you mailed:

%-----------------------------------

\version "2.19.59"

\include "gregorian.ly"

\paper {
  indent = 0
  ragged-last = ##t
}

offsetChord =
#(define-music-function (music)(ly:music?)
"Return an event-chord with offsetted NoteHeads.
Articulations are printed with respect to their corresponding NoteHeads "
  (let* ((ev-notes (event-chord-notes music)))
    (make-event-chord
      (map
        (lambda (ecn which val)
          (let ((arts (ly:music-property ecn 'articulations)))
            ;; set 'articulations of 'NoteEvent
            (ly:music-set-property! ecn 'articulations
              (if (not (null? arts))
                  (map
                    (lambda (a)
                      ;; set a new parent for 'ArticulationEvent
                      (if (music-is-of-type? a 'articulation-event)
                          #{
                            \tweak after-line-breaking
                              #(lambda (grob)
                                 (let* ((note-head (ly:grob-parent grob X))
                                        (nc (ly:grob-parent note-head X))
                                        (nh
                                          (ly:grob-array->list
                                            (ly:grob-object nc 'note-heads))))
                                   (set!
                                     (ly:grob-parent grob X)
                                     (list-ref nh which))))
                            $a
                          #}
                          a))
                    arts)
                  '()))
              ;; apply 'X-offset-tweak to every NoteHead
              #{ \tweak X-offset $val $ecn #}))
        ev-notes
        (iota (length ev-notes))
        (iota (length ev-notes) 0 1.48)))))

\layout {
  \omit Stem
  \context {
    \Score
    defaultBarType = #""
    \omit TimeSignature
    % reenable the following line to prevent "open ended" Akkolada
    %\override SpacingSpanner.base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1/16)
    %\remove "Bar_number_engraver"
  }
  \context {
    \Lyrics
    \override LyricText.X-align-on-main-noteheads = ##f
    %\override LyricText.font-size = #-1
  }
}

chant = \relative a' {
  \key d \major
  a4 a \breathe a \offsetChord { b d } b b a \offsetChord { b b }
  cis \offsetChord { b b } a \breathe a d d cis \breathe \bar "" \break a\breve*1/4
  d4 d a a \breathe a d d cis cis b b \offsetChord { a a } \divisioMaior
  e e\breve*1/4 \offsetChord { a4 a } e e
}

verba = \lyricmode {
  aus -- ging, daß al -- le Welt ge -- schät -- zet wür -- de.
  und je -- der -- mann
  \once \override LyricText.self-alignment-X = #LEFT "ging, daß er sich"
  schät -- zen lie -- ße,
  ein jeg -- li -- cher in sei -- ne Stadt.
  Da \once \override LyricText.self-alignment-X = #LEFT "machte sich auch auf"
  Jo -- seph aus
}

\score {
  <<
    \new Voice = "melody" \chant
    \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verba
  >>
}

%-----


Kind regards,

Michael


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Re: certain type of vocal notation in liturgical contexts

David Wright
On Thu 01 Jun 2017 at 11:52:31 (+0200), Michael Gerdau wrote:

>   cis \offsetChord { b b } a \breathe a d d cis \breathe \bar "" \break a\breve*1/4

>   […] zet wür -- de.
>   und je -- der -- mann
>   \once \override LyricText.self-alignment-X = #LEFT "ging, daß er sich"

I get a programming error from somewhere within those lines:

Drawing systems...
programming error: Loose column does not have right side to attach to.
continuing, cross fingers
Layout output to `/tmp/lilypond-nVURRS'...

And BTW that comma I mentioned, yes it does cause trouble,
printing it as well as singing it.

Cheers,
David.

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Re: certain type of vocal notation in liturgical contexts

Michael Gerdau
Travelling right now I'd suspect a problem related to errorneous line breaks in the code copied from email. If you can't find the problem I'll resend the code as attachment later tonight.
Kind regards,
Michael

Am 1. Juni 2017 15:48:50 MESZ schrieb David Wright <[hidden email]>:
On Thu 01 Jun 2017 at 11:52:31 (+0200), Michael Gerdau wrote:

cis \offsetChord { b b } a \breathe a d d cis \breathe \bar "" \break a\breve*1/4

[…] zet wür -- de.
und je -- der -- mann
\once \override LyricText.self-alignment-X = #LEFT "ging, daß er sich"

I get a programming error from somewhere within those lines:

Drawing systems...
programming error: Loose column does not have right side to attach to.
continuing, cross fingers
Layout output to `/tmp/lilypond-nVURRS'...

And BTW that comma I mentioned, yes it does cause trouble,
printing it as well as singing it.

Cheers,
David.


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Re: certain type of vocal notation in liturgical contexts

Thomas Morley-2
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2017-06-01 11:52 GMT+02:00 Michael Gerdau <[hidden email]>:

> Hallo Jonathan,
>
>
> I would like to typeset a certain type of notation, which can be found
> in liturgical context. I have an example image attached. (Ignore the
> lyrics written in Fraktur). I have two questions:
>
> How is this notation called?
> How can I (easily) reproduce it with LP? - a question which might
> break apart into:
> 2a) how do I typeset those "double-quarter" notes?
> 2b) how do I manage the alignment of lyrics conveniently? (NB
> that several times there happen to be multiple syllables on one note).
>
> quite some time ago Thomas Morley kindly provided a very helpful function
> \offsetChord which is rather helpful to deal with these melismata. Find
> below an engraving of the image you mailed:

See
https://archiv.lilypondforum.de/index.php/topic,2027.msg11201.html#msg11201
with another example
revised coding:
https://archiv.lilypondforum.de/index.php/topic,2027.msg11900.html#msg11900

The there provided 'setOtherParent'-function may be of some use as well.


Cheers,
  Harm

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