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Re: New Installation of 2.5.29 on FreeBSD

Gordon Gilbert
Hi all!

I have just installed, under the very able guidance of Graham Percival,
version 2.5.29 on my FreeBSD 5.3 system.  Now, when I try to run it, the
program won't launch, nor will it convert-ly.  What am I missing here?
I'm thinking it might be that the program was installed (at Graham's
suggestion) in /usr/src/ instead of some other directory, as when a
program is installed by ports.  I did uninstall the port version (2.2.2)
and run the gmake install, etc. per the instructions. This is from the
xterm where I run it:

[1:2:186]gord@angel:~/songs/LilypondSets> lilypond AgnusDei.ly
bash: lilypond: command not found
[1:3:187]gord@angel:~/songs/LilypondSets>

I'm supposing it's something really obvious here, so maybe someone can
help.

Blessings,

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Re: New Installation of 2.5.29 on FreeBSD

Graham Percival

On 14-Jun-05, at 3:32 AM, Gordon Gilbert wrote:
> I have just installed, under the very able guidance of Graham
> Percival, version 2.5.29 on my FreeBSD 5.3 system.  Now, when I try to
> run it, the program won't launch, nor will it convert-ly.  What am I
> missing here? I'm thinking it might be that the program was installed
> (at Graham's suggestion) in /usr/src/ instead of some other
>  directory, as when a program is installed by ports.  I did uninstall
> the port version (2.2.2) and run the gmake install, etc. per the
> instructions. This is from the xterm where I run it:

I don't think it was installed in /usr/src; it was unzipped there.

I can't remember if I told you that the "gmake install" needed to be
run as root -- either
su to root and run "gmake install", or (if it's set up) run "sudo gmake
install".  When you
do that, look at the messages -- they should be about installing stuff
in
/usr/local/STUFF   (ie /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/share, etc)

If that still doesn't work, then do "set | grep PATH".  In
PATH=blahblah, you should see
/usr/local/bin.  If not, you'll need to figure out how to add
/usr/local/bin to your path.

Cheers,
- Graham



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Re: New Installation of 2.5.29 on FreeBSD

Gordon Gilbert
Hi!

Aha!  That did it!  (I thought I had done the gmake install already.)  Now
I have to figure out how to get my present files to configure.  I'm having
trouble with the syntax, which I don't really understand, but simply have
used templates that worked.  Maybe I need to find a couple of templates
for 2.5.29 and stick my "notes", "words" and "chords" into the appropriate
sections, and go from there.

Blessings,

Fr Gord+


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Re: New Installation of 2.5.29 on FreeBSD

Mats Bengtsson-6
You mentioned convert-ly yourself in an earlier email. That should
fix your existing files. Of course, you have to learn what has
changed to be able to write new scores. A good starting point is
the NEWS file on the documentation page for 2.5.xx.

    /Mats

Gordon Gilbert wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Aha!  That did it!  (I thought I had done the gmake install already.)  
> Now I have to figure out how to get my present files to configure.  I'm
> having trouble with the syntax, which I don't really understand, but
> simply have used templates that worked.  Maybe I need to find a couple
> of templates for 2.5.29 and stick my "notes", "words" and "chords" into
> the appropriate sections, and go from there.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Fr Gord+
>
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Re: New Installation of 2.5.29 on FreeBSD

Gordon Gilbert
Hi Mats,

I tried convert-ly on one of my files, and still couldn't get lilypond to
compile.  Just so I know, is it:

convert-ly [oldfilename.ly] [newfilename.ly]

or

convert-ly filename.ly (thus revising the text file)?

Because this is what I tried, and kept getting errors I couldn't make out.
Having followed *some* of the traffic in the list, I know there are words
we don't need in 2.5.xx that were needed in 2.2.2, but I'm not up to speed
in that yet.

That's where I'm wondering if I should maybe find a few good templates and
plug in my data to make my songs.  If I can get convert-ly to work, that I
guess would save me a lot of work.

Blessings,

Fr Gordon Gilbert+

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Re: New Installation of 2.5.29 on FreeBSD

Gordon Gilbert
Hi Stan!

Youse guys are good!  I did that, and it corrected a whole bunch of bad
code from my previous efforts.  Now I have two questions:  Is it possible
to adjust the default paper-size to "letter" instead of "A4"?  How?  And,
in one hymn, the staff systems are quite far apart, taking two pages, but
I would like to squeeze the whole thing on one sheet -- how can I adjust
staff spacing, or font size?  In the new version, lyrics fonts seem to be
larger -- I could use smaller if possible.

Thanks!

Fr. Gord+


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Re: New Installation of 2.5.29 on FreeBSD

dpeach

> Is it
> possible to adjust the default paper-size to "letter" instead of "A4"?  

I have a score with this in it:
#(set-default-paper-size "letter")

I assume that does it. I am working from another hymn that I have hacked up.

> And, in one hymn, the staff systems are quite far apart, taking
> two pages, but I would like to squeeze the whole thing on one sheet --
> how can I adjust staff spacing, or font size?

I do it like this:
#(set-global-staff-size 20.5)

That seems to adjust the staff size. Just a bit larger and it bleeds
onto the second page.

Neither of these do I really know much about, but they seem to do the
trick for me. I am in the process of learning this. Learning a handful
of stuff each day. Just have not gotten around to what these 2 lines
mean, they just seem to do the job.

Hope this helps and gets me on the track to being able to help instead
of always asking questions.

dpeach


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Re: New Installation of 2.5.29 on FreeBSD

Graham Percival
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On 14-Jun-05, at 5:03 PM, Gordon Gilbert wrote:

> Youse guys are good!  I did that, and it corrected a whole bunch of
> bad code from my previous efforts.  Now I have two questions:  Is it
> possible to adjust the default paper-size to "letter" instead of "A4"?
>  How?  And, in

Read the manual!

>  one hymn, the staff systems are quite far apart, taking two pages,
> but I would like to squeeze the whole thing on one sheet -- how can I
> adjust staff spacing, or font size?  In the new version, lyrics fonts
> seem to be larger -- I could use smaller if possible.

Read the manual.

This goes for convert-ly, too.  It's explained quite clearly in the
manual.  We don't
mind explaining how to do complicated or undocumented things, but
please consult
the manual before asking us to explain things.

- Graham



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Re: New Installation of 2.5.29 on FreeBSD

Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence
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Yes both of those do work.
I generally have tried to adjust the 'size' using various numbers until
I get the result I want.  So
Yes letter
Yes set size to 20 or less and it should do the trick.
Jay

dpeach wrote:

>
>> Is it possible to adjust the default paper-size to "letter" instead
>> of "A4"?  
>
>
> I have a score with this in it:
> #(set-default-paper-size "letter")
>
> I assume that does it. I am working from another hymn that I have
> hacked up.
>
>> And, in one hymn, the staff systems are quite far apart, taking two
>> pages, but I would like to squeeze the whole thing on one sheet --
>> how can I adjust staff spacing, or font size?
>
>
> I do it like this:
> #(set-global-staff-size 20.5)
>
> That seems to adjust the staff size. Just a bit larger and it bleeds
> onto the second page.
>
> Neither of these do I really know much about, but they seem to do the
> trick for me. I am in the process of learning this. Learning a handful
> of stuff each day. Just have not gotten around to what these 2 lines
> mean, they just seem to do the job.
>
> Hope this helps and gets me on the track to being able to help instead
> of always asking questions.
>
> dpeach
>
>
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>

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Re: New Installation of 2.5.29 on FreeBSD

Mats Bengtsson-6
See also the documentation of the properties 'betweensystemspace' and
'betweensystempadding' in the sections "10.1.3 Page formatting" and
"10.1.5 Vertical spacing".

    /Mats

Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote:

> Yes both of those do work.
> I generally have tried to adjust the 'size' using various numbers until
> I get the result I want.  So
> Yes letter
> Yes set size to 20 or less and it should do the trick.
> Jay
>
> dpeach wrote:
>
>>
>>> Is it possible to adjust the default paper-size to "letter" instead
>>> of "A4"?  
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a score with this in it:
>> #(set-default-paper-size "letter")
>>
>> I assume that does it. I am working from another hymn that I have
>> hacked up.
>>
>>> And, in one hymn, the staff systems are quite far apart, taking two
>>> pages, but I would like to squeeze the whole thing on one sheet --
>>> how can I adjust staff spacing, or font size?
>>
>>
>>
>> I do it like this:
>> #(set-global-staff-size 20.5)
>>
>> That seems to adjust the staff size. Just a bit larger and it bleeds
>> onto the second page.
>>
>> Neither of these do I really know much about, but they seem to do the
>> trick for me. I am in the process of learning this. Learning a handful
>> of stuff each day. Just have not gotten around to what these 2 lines
>> mean, they just seem to do the job.
>>
>> Hope this helps and gets me on the track to being able to help instead
>> of always asking questions.
>>
>> dpeach
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> lilypond-user mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
>>
>>
>

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Re: New Installation of 2.5.29 on FreeBSD

Mats Bengtsson-6
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Please read the documentation:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Updating-files-with-convert_002dly.html#Updating-files-with-convert_002dly

   /Mats

Gordon Gilbert wrote:

> Hi Mats,
>
> I tried convert-ly on one of my files, and still couldn't get lilypond
> to compile.  Just so I know, is it:
>
> convert-ly [oldfilename.ly] [newfilename.ly]
>
> or
>
> convert-ly filename.ly (thus revising the text file)?
>
> Because this is what I tried, and kept getting errors I couldn't make
> out. Having followed *some* of the traffic in the list, I know there are
> words we don't need in 2.5.xx that were needed in 2.2.2, but I'm not up
> to speed in that yet.
>
> That's where I'm wondering if I should maybe find a few good templates
> and plug in my data to make my songs.  If I can get convert-ly to work,
> that I guess would save me a lot of work.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Fr Gordon Gilbert+
>
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