Does what: \override Slur #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)

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Does what: \override Slur #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)

Donald Axel



   Normally I write comments so that I can understand why things
are like this or that in the source:-)

   I think there are some additions from convert-ly and others
from the Mutopiaproject-editor. That is ok with me; however, I
cannot find out from where this one comes and what might have been
the original intention:


  \override Slur   #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)

  There are NO SLURS in the voice in question!!!


   Lilypond 2.6.3 warns:
Interpreting music...
warning: can't find property type-check for `attachment' (backend-type?).
  perhaps a typing error?
warning: doing assignment anyway


   When out-commenting the "override Slur - line" the resulting
postscript file is slightly different from line 19735 out of
approx.23000 lines, but I cannot get much out of the differences
and I cannot see any differences on the rendered page.



   The result (without assignment to #'attachment) is ok (I will set
it up on my website).

   Regards/Donald

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Re: Does what: \override Slur #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)

Donald Axel
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 00:28:51 +0200
dax2 wrote:

>
>   \override Slur   #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)
>
>   There are NO SLURS in the voice in question!!!

The Slur - override makes sluts attach to the top of the stem
instead of going to the notehead. That way you can move the slurs
away from another voice.

However in this case the slurs were too tight anyway so I removed
them and anchored another set of ties to invisible notes, that way
getting space beneath the slurs and being able to draw the slur to
the beginning of the bar (where the right hand otherwise is silent).



There are some very interesting uses of Slur-attachments in
the Mutopiaproject setting of Chopin - Etude op. 10.9.


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Re: Does what: \override Slur #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)

Mats Bengtsson-6
Note that this property was removed somewhere between version 2.2
and 2.4 and has still not reappeared. Of course, that's why you can't
find any information about it in the current documentation.
If you search the mailing list archives, you will find some related
discussions.

    /Mats

dax2 wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 00:28:51 +0200
> dax2 wrote:
>
>
>>  \override Slur   #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)
>>
>>  There are NO SLURS in the voice in question!!!
>
>
> The Slur - override makes sluts attach to the top of the stem
> instead of going to the notehead. That way you can move the slurs
> away from another voice.
>
> However in this case the slurs were too tight anyway so I removed
> them and anchored another set of ties to invisible notes, that way
> getting space beneath the slurs and being able to draw the slur to
> the beginning of the bar (where the right hand otherwise is silent).
>
>
>
> There are some very interesting uses of Slur-attachments in
> the Mutopiaproject setting of Chopin - Etude op. 10.9.
>
>

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RE: Does what: \override Slur #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)

Fairchild
Sure do miss the "\override Slur #'attachment = " feature in v 2.4.6.  Using
"\override Slur #'control-points = " as a workaround is tedious.  Don't want
to upgrade beyond 2.4.6 yet.

Is there a better workaround or a way to patch in the missing Scheme code?

                         - Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: lilypond-user-bounces+fairchild=[hidden email]
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+fairchild=[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Mats Bengtsson
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:45 AM
To: dax2
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Does what: \override Slur #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)


Note that this property was removed somewhere between version 2.2 and 2.4
and has still not reappeared. Of course, that's why you can't find any
information about it in the current documentation. If you search the mailing
list archives, you will find some related discussions.

    /Mats

dax2 wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 00:28:51 +0200
> dax2 wrote:
>
>
>>  \override Slur   #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)
>>
>>  There are NO SLURS in the voice in question!!!
>
>
> The Slur - override makes sluts attach to the top of the stem instead
> of going to the notehead. That way you can move the slurs away from
> another voice.
>
> However in this case the slurs were too tight anyway so I removed them
> and anchored another set of ties to invisible notes, that way getting
> space beneath the slurs and being able to draw the slur to the
> beginning of the bar (where the right hand otherwise is silent).
>
>
>
> There are some very interesting uses of Slur-attachments in
> the Mutopiaproject setting of Chopin - Etude op. 10.9.
>
>

--
=============================================
        Mats Bengtsson
        Signal Processing
        Signals, Sensors and Systems
        Royal Institute of Technology
        SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM
        Sweden
        Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463
         Fax:   (+46) 8 790 7260
        Email: [hidden email]
        WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe
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Re: Does what: \override Slur #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)

Han-Wen Nienhuys
Fairchild wrote:
> Sure do miss the "\override Slur #'attachment = " feature in v 2.4.6.  Using
> "\override Slur #'control-points = " as a workaround is tedious.  Don't want
> to upgrade beyond 2.4.6 yet.
>
> Is there a better workaround or a way to patch in the missing Scheme code?

why don't you use #'positions ?


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RE: Does what: \override Slur #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)

Fairchild
Tried:
 \override       Slur #'positions = #'(stem . head)
 \override       Slur #'positions = #'( 13.0 . -13.0 )
 \override Score.Slur #'positions = #'( 13.0 . -13.0 )
 \override Voice.Slur #'positions = #'( 13.0 . -13.0 )
 \override       Slur #'positions = #'(( 13.0 . -13.0 ) ( 4.0 . 4.0 ))
to no effect, not even errors.
Tell me more.

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Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:16 PM
To: Fairchild
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Does what: \override Slur #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)


Fairchild wrote:
> Sure do miss the "\override Slur #'attachment = " feature in v 2.4.6.  
> Using "\override Slur #'control-points = " as a workaround is tedious.  
> Don't want to upgrade beyond 2.4.6 yet.
>
> Is there a better workaround or a way to patch in the missing Scheme
> code?

why don't you use #'positions ?


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Re: Does what: \override Slur #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)

Han-Wen Nienhuys
Fairchild wrote:
> Tried:
>  \override       Slur #'positions = #'(stem . head)
>  \override       Slur #'positions = #'( 13.0 . -13.0 )
>  \override Score.Slur #'positions = #'( 13.0 . -13.0 )
>  \override Voice.Slur #'positions = #'( 13.0 . -13.0 )
>  \override       Slur #'positions = #'(( 13.0 . -13.0 ) ( 4.0 . 4.0 ))
> to no effect, not even errors.
> Tell me more.

see the slur-manual.ly regression test.
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RE: Does what: \override Slur #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)

Fairchild
I find slur-manual.ly in 2.6 but not 2.4.  Anyway, with only one coordinate
set, it seems 'positions can only move the entire slur without changing tilt
or shape?

-----Original Message-----
From: Han-Wen Nienhuys [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:40 PM
To: Fairchild
Cc: [hidden email]
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Fairchild wrote:
> Tried:
>  \override       Slur #'positions = #'(stem . head)
>  \override       Slur #'positions = #'( 13.0 . -13.0 )
>  \override Score.Slur #'positions = #'( 13.0 . -13.0 )  \override
> Voice.Slur #'positions = #'( 13.0 . -13.0 )
>  \override       Slur #'positions = #'(( 13.0 . -13.0 ) ( 4.0 . 4.0 ))
> to no effect, not even errors.
> Tell me more.

see the slur-manual.ly regression test.
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